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Camp Pendleton warns of noise starting Saturday


Friday, October 19th, 2012
Issue 42, Volume 16.


CAMP PENDLETON - Camp Pendleton artillery units will conduct a week of live fire training on the North County Marine Corps installation starting Saturday, base officials announced today.

The training is scheduled to take place from 6 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. Advertisement
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Saturday through Friday, according to Pendleton's public affairs office.

Depending on atmospheric conditions, the sound of the explosions may be heard up to 50 miles away.

Residents with questions about the noise were urged to call base officials at (760) 725-0357.


 

52 comments

Comment Profile ImageFallbrook 1
Comment #1 | Friday, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:51 pm
The sound of Freedom !!!!!!!!!!
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #2 | Friday, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:21 pm
So before all you Christians concerned about others as Christ has taught you, begin complaining about the noise from Camp Pendleton, let me reassure you that the Marines are not intentionally interrupting your chi.

These fine young men and women are preparing to leave their families and friends and are willing accept the hardship of being gone for 6 or 7 months. Worse yet, people who think females shouldn't be educated and who try to kill those who do try to become educated, will in fact try to kill our Marines.

Do you still see the need to complain about noise?
Comment Profile Imagemomz
Comment #3 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:33 am
Redneck Bill
I agree with you 100%. Bless our men and women who Fight and Train for our Freedom. Boom Boom !!! Proud to be an American God Bless the USA.
Comment Profile ImageAnti-war/anti-soldier
Comment #4 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:54 am
Fine young men and women do not participate in neocolonialist wars of aggression against third world people. Honorable people should find honorable vocations

Stop this war NOW!
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook resident
Comment #5 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:10 am
It would be nice if our neighbors (The Marines) could refrain from noisy training stuff during normal sleeping hours though. That is not too much to ask I think.
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #6 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Just once I'd like to read these boards concerning noise where somebody doesn't say "The Sound of Freedom."

Think up something original for once.
Comment Profile Image3 year home owner in Fallbrook.
Comment #7 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm
I'll jump on this Band wagon, "Fire way!!!! We support you!!!!
Comment Profile Image@ redneck pill
Comment #8 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Sounds like you're the only one doing the complaining about others (who aren't even complaining). God bless.
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #9 | Saturday, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:12 pm
"Fight for our freedom"....please explain how going onto other countires' soil and pillaging them and their structures, going billions more in debt annually to police another nation is accomplishing this. Please tell me specific freedoms we have in this country that are being kept free by us being in the Middle East. If you mean to continue our lifestyles here, then that is another matter, but "freedom"? "The only defensible war is a war of defense." G.K. Chesterton
Comment Profile Image3 year home owner in Fallbrook.
Comment #10 | Sunday, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:03 am
Dearest # 9. I pray you never need to know the answer to what specific freedoms we are fighting for.(If they come over here instead of us over there.)You would quickly understand. "Freedom is every thing"
Comment Profile ImageSeriously
Comment #11 | Sunday, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:21 am
The military only does what the people we vote into office order them to do, Mom of lots. Look into the mirror and talk to your politicians before you lay blame on those who are serving their country.
Comment Profile ImageDisgusted
Comment #12 | Sunday, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:08 pm
You know mom of lots, one of the freedoms they fight for is the freedom of speech. The freedom you take advantage of to disparage them. You make me sick.
Comment Profile Imageseriously
Comment #13 | Sunday, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@comment 12 u say they fight for freedom of speech.....well DUH let her speak what is in her mind remember FREEDOM OF SPEECH and thats what she just did.
Comment Profile ImageMy two cents
Comment #14 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:34 am
I am very proud of our military and the men and women who are willing to "step up" to keep us free and safe.
Our military personnel do not set policy, but they are the ones who enforce it.
I proudly and honorably served in the USAF. That experience helped shape my life - in a good way.
Freedom is like the air we breathe, we take it for granted until it's gone.
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #15 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:55 am
@Seriously- please take notice that no matter who is voted into our office the country continues in the same direction- complete decline.
@Disgusted- if our freedom of speech is ever taken away it will not be due to 3rd world countries across the ocean thousands of miles away.
Comment Profile ImageDisgusted
Comment #16 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:56 am
Well Seriously I never said she didn't have a right to free speech, I said she does have that right thanks to our military. I also said she makes me sick, and she does! That is MY right to free speech. So "well DUH" right back at you.
Comment Profile ImageUnbelieveable
Comment #17 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:45 am
Clearly mom of lots has been too busy having "lots" of kids to notice little things like the attack on us (911) the attack on USS Cole. The fact that there are terrorists in this country right now plotting attacks against us and they don't care a tinkers darn about killing innocent people (women and children) mom of lots. Ever wonder why women and children (unless the kids are male) have no value in a third world country. Be thankful that we do have people on the wall to guard you whether you want it or not. I'm with Disgusted. You and people like you make me sick.
Comment Profile ImageTRD
Comment #18 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I don't often agree with Mom of lots but this time I certainly do!
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #19 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:01 pm
@Unbelievable- I am very aware of 9/11 and USS Cole. Ever wonder why other countries are so angry with us? If they were angry because of our "freedom", then certainly attacks such like these should have been going on way before the present ones. We have been a free country for over 200 years, although that is declining at a rapid pace as now we are financial serfs of "wars" and the federal reserve. I have family that has been deployed in Iraq (notice how the "war" switched locations) and they laugh (not me) when people say we're there "fighting for our freedom". That is the unfortunate slogan that has been sold to the American public and soldiers to believe. How else would we support the pillaging of citizens, women and children....and destroying their infrastructure? Google "Iraq Veterans Against the War" and listen to what these soldiers have to say.
Comment Profile ImageLOL
Comment #20 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:19 pm
These comments are comedic relief....Semper Fi!!!
Comment Profile ImageLiz
Comment #21 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I love to see the choppers and planes come over! God bless all our soldiers!
Comment Profile ImageMarineWife
Comment #22 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:20 pm
It's amazing that this article turned into what it did. I came here to ensure that the noise I am hearing was in fact Camp Pendleton. Here's a thought: Camp Pendleton was established long before you bought your house. If you don't like it - move. Here's another thought... it's not the men and women fighting tooth and nail over there that you need to bash and blame for the decisions of our political leaders. If you think we need to end the war, maybe you should write your congressman or the office of the "president".... not a snarky comment on a local paper's website. So MY question was answered... along with the reassurance that I'm surrounded by so many morons in this part of the country. Can't wait to go back home.
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Comment Profile ImageMarineWife
Comment #23 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:23 pm
and PS octomom- if these 3rd world countries' leaders would take care of their own business and MIND their own business and FEED THEIR OWN PEOPLE, maybe we wouldn't have to dabble in their affairs. I, personally, am on your team - I think we should leave them alone... but not because I care about their rights... but because they should revel in what their leaders give to them - NOTHING. It's not our responsibility to feed the entire globe on the American Dollar.
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Comment Profile ImageMarineWife
Comment #24 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:26 pm
And, seriously, my last comment here - I think Octomom is really saying that POLITICIANS are using the war for their own greed - don't be blinded, Octo. Yes - the location changed... that's Obama. Why is he still over there if he's such a liberal? If he's such a humanitarian who is so Muslim-oriented, why are we still there? Why are we there while he's cutting the military? You need to be asking yourself questions about who is DIRECTING the military - not those IN the military.
Comment Profile ImageReality Checker
Comment #25 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Mom of Lots & TRD,
I don't believe anyone in our military, or in congress supports the pillaging of citizens, women and children. How is it you come to believe such a thing?
I do believe in the bigger picture, (as maybe should you) that if we didn't have soldiers "over there" keeping them (the jihadists) busy defending themselves on their own soil, that they and the muslim brotherhood would have a much easier time attacking us here on our own soil. That's a fact. You said: "if our freedom of speech is ever taken away it will not be due to 3rd world countries across the ocean thousands of miles away." You couldn't be more wrong, sorry. It's not just what you imagine as "third world" countries either, by the way. Some very modern and large countries have factions and governments that see us as standing in their way to achieving a global caliphate, and instituting Shariah law everywhere, forcing everyone to renounce their faith and embrace "Radical Islam". That's what they want, and we are standing in their way. In case you haven't caught on yet, that means loosing our freedom. All of it. That's what is meant by the statement "They are fighting for our freedom". That means ALL OF THEM. The armed forces are all that stands between us and them. Don't think for a second that everyone in Washington D.C. is on our side in this. They aren't, and they never were. They just said whatever it took, whatever stupid people everywhere wanted to hear to get a certain someone into office, so our freedoms could be surrendered, our influence minimized, and our debt used to transfer all our current and future wealth outside of the United States, all in the name of socialism and anti-colonialism. That just happens to be to the benefit of these so called third world countries....it makes us weak.....Get it? If not, don't get mad. Get informed. And then, do your part and go vote to protect your country. There are countries, (China, Russia, North Korea and Iran), other governments, factions, and terrorists that are just waiting for the day to come when our debt is so great, our economy so bad, our country so financially broke, where hyperinflation makes everyday living impossible, and waiting for our underfunded, demoralized military to be so weakened, so they can hit us like we've never been hit before. They want it. They are waiting for it. They are planning it, we cannot give it to them.
Comment Profile ImageR8r fan
Comment #26 | Monday, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:21 pm
I never said they had to leave. Stay home and save my tax money
Comment Profile Imageget over it
Comment #27 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:20 am
who cares? the complaining and arguing is worse than the sounds.
Comment Profile ImageJM
Comment #28 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:43 am
#25. Thanks for the post. You brought logic to these shallow comments
Comment Profile ImageCurious
Comment #29 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Why can't the live fire training be done in less populated areas? There are areas not far away that have virtually nothing around them for 50 miles or more. Is it because they need to be near the ocean? It was pretty loud where I live in Fallbrook last night going on midnight. That's really late. I have heard them all day today, which is tough when you work at home. As for the idea that they were here first, I think that's a cop out. Things change over time, and then people compromise-don't they? I admire our military, but I don't feel they are big on compromising with the community on noise issues. Not to get snippy, but doesn't the military work for the citizens? Please understand that I write this as a conservative who generally is supportive of our military.
Comment Profile ImageOld Fallbrook local
Comment #30 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:25 pm
With hundreds of thousands of acres in Twenty nine Palms why here? Also, what is the logic of helicopters flying over our town at 12:00 A:M when there are thousands of acres for them to fly over on the base? I support our troops. It is the disrespect we get from the higher ups that I question.
Comment Profile ImageFR86
Comment #31 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Camp Pendleton was here long before most of the people "Kveching" about the noise and the posts. The village of Fallbrook is lucky to have the Marine Corp here supporting what's left of the economy in town after the strip malls in Temecula and Oceanside have syphoned off most of the revenue that used to support main street here.

At least the Corps is advising the community of the noise before they start excercises.

Perhaps all the complainers should move to Lake Forest or Temecula........
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #32 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@Curious- the military works for the govt, not the citizenry, although the citizens pay for it.
@Marine wife- no matter who I vote in for office, the "wars" will continue on indefinitely in the Middle East. Republican/Democrat makes no difference. Ron Paul would have made a difference and stopped this insanity, but no Dem. or Rep. ever will. Notice how Obama trumped, "I will bring the troops home" before he was elected? How laughable. They all say whatever they think will get them into office and then continue their role of puppetry. One reason why so many of our military come home with PTSD is because what is going on over there is against humanity- themselves and others. Some choose to go to the brig instead. Google Iraq Veterans Against the War and you'll meet some people who did just that. 3rd world countries need to feed their people and that is why we need to intervene? No, rich countries (like us) take money away from their poor and give to poor countries (like them) to give to their rich. You think those leaders are using our money to feed the poor? Most of it goes to their military. We are the ones who need to mind our own business.
@Reality Checker- anyone that pays for, votes for, and is actively involved in this "war" IS supporting our murderous rampage, further making their people hate us even all the more. We spend billions of dollars per year on this "war", money that does not even exist (the federal reserve prints it). It is no coincidence that hamburgers no longer cost 25 cents. We do have hyper inflation and us giving away paper money and spending billions more is making this even more of a very serious threat to our country. We are in rapid decline. We are collapsing from WITHIN, NOT from without, just as the Roman Empire did. The Romans did just as we are....trying to creat a global empire all around them, spreading themselves too thin. Eventually they collapsed completely.
So, you are suggesting I do more research? Years ago, I thought JUST LIKE YOU. My blood boiled when I heard someone demanding the war end. I thought, "if our military wasn't doing what they are doing, you wouldn't even be able to protest against this war!" Even had a bumper sticker on my car that said, "George Bush is saving your a** wether you believe it or not." (this was during our Iraq days). Dr. Ron Paul is when my awakening to reality happened. It wasn't fun. I thought he was a weirdo at first. But the more I listened and the more I read, the more I learned and the more my eyes were opened. It was painful. I shed tears for our country. I shed tears for our people.
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Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #33 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:03 pm
"Rich countries take money away from their poor to give money to the rich in poor countries."
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Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #34 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm
FR86- yep, small businesses continue to collapse while big govt continues to grow and thrive, for now at least. We live in a govt run society.
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Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #35 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:21 pm
And corporate run. I am thankful my husband works for a corporation as I would be thankful if he were in the military. Those 2 seem to provide a more stable income in these difficult and uncertain, economic times.
Comment Profile Imagehaters got to hate
Comment #36 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm
annoying, now i know how ppl over seas feel,
Comment Profile Image@14
Comment #37 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:11 pm
We have an all volunteer armed forces. If you don't want to kill innocent third world civilians then you shouldn't enlist. If you like murdering innocents then the US Armed Forces are just the place for you.
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #38 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Mom of lots,

I have followed your posts for a long time. My son is a Marine. Whether it means anything to you or not, I agree with you.
Comment Profile Imagekissfromarose777
Comment #39 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Comment #31. Actually I'm in Temecula listening to the noise! God Bless our military!
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Comment Profile Imagekissfromarose777
Comment #40 | Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:17 pm
If the noise they make during training helps increase the chance that they will all come home safely, then fire away! I can buy ear plugs!!
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #41 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:02 am
Redneck Bill, it means A LOT to me that you agree with me. Thank you and God bless you and your son.
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #42 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:47 am
It's not the "noise" so much as the rumbling. With the low cloud cover the last few days...it's been awful. Definitely the worst since I lived here. My whole house has been shaking for 2 days...and I'm 15 miles from the base.
Comment Profile ImageValleyCenterNoise
Comment #43 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:15 am
Does anyone else ever wonder about the cumulative damage to buildings in the area that these test runs do? We live in an earthquake zone. Every time I hear & feel our house shake from these explosions I wonder... Hmmm... what's the structural impact to our home of the repeated tremor shaking? I hope there's no cumulative damage that leaves our homes less earthquake ready.

yay freedom
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #44 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:48 am
Valley Center Noise....that is my concern as well.

This latest week of artillery is definitely the worst I've felt in 4 years. I don't know if it is because of a unique location or what...but my home is literally shaking with every blast....and my house is a custom made home constructed by the builder who originally lived in it....so it is a quality building.

My concern is cracking of the stucco....these blasts are that bad.
Comment Profile ImageFallbrooker Than You
Comment #45 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:18 pm
So apparently the base was established in 1942. I can trace my lineage in Fallbrook back to at least the 1930s. Does that mean I can complain about the noise?

For the curious:

http://www.pendleton.marines.mil/Portals/98/Docs/Operations/RangeOps/CampPendleton_RCUZ_June2007.pdf
Comment Profile ImageButch
Comment #46 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I have gone on the Camp Pendelton website noise advisory. I am a real estate agent. Is there a way to have a more specific date of the month or week when the noise will occur? It is hard to sell when the windows are rattling.
Comment Profile ImageSan Marcos
Comment #47 | Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I live in San Marcos and my house shakes and windows rattle. Sounds like someone is breaking into my home. The blasts have woke me up this week. I don't know how people living even closer to Pendleton can sleep. I am all for it though. I do get it! They need their training....
(; Just wish I could get a text alert or something before it starts ;)
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #48 | Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:49 am
Interesting. I live right by base....literally the gate is less than a mile from my home and it rarely gets as loud as you all are describing, however, I am wondering if the sound waves travel differently depending on where you are geographically/topographically located? Yes, sometimes my glasses in my cabinets shake and there has been a few times where I thought nuclear bombs were going off, but this time around has been very mild for us. Maybe there are different locations they use at different times to do their training?
Comment Profile ImageFR86
Comment #49 | Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:58 am
To Mom of lots,

Big Government and Big Corporations are about the same thing........

Individuals will not improve their state unless we stop depending on these anonymous and souless entities.

Both of these beuracratic monsters need to:

Protect our shores, provide an environment for individual initiative and stay the !#%# out of our lives.
Comment Profile Imagehaters gotta hate
Comment #50 | Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:01 am
shut down camp pendleton!!!! hey hey ho ho, camp pendleton has got to go!!!!
Comment Profile ImageMom of lots
Comment #51 | Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:28 pm
FR86- fully agreed. My husband feels like banging his head against a brick wall most days at work. ZERO self initiative or room for creativity. We are thankful for the income and health insurance, but there is a price to pay.
Comment Profile ImageMary
Comment #52 | Friday, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:10 am
No peace on earth this month!! We live in Fallbrook where everyday is an earthquake!!

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